Dicey misquote

Have you come across this quote or this meme?

The House can in accordance with the constitution be deprived of power [when] there is fair reason to suppose that the opinion of the House is not the opinion of the electors.

It’s a blatant and deliberately misleading misquote. It’s from Introduction to the Study of the Law of the Constitution, A. C. Dicey, and if you search the text for “deprived of power” you will find the original of the quotation in Chapter XIV:

But the reason why the House can in accordance with the constitution be deprived of power and of existence is that an occasion has arisen on which there is fair reason to suppose that the opinion of the House is not the opinion of the electors. A dissolution is in its essence an appeal from the legal to the political sovereign. A dissolution is allowable, or necessary, whenever the wishes of the legislature are, or may fairly be presumed to be, different from the wishes of the nation.

So this passage is specifically about the DISSOLUTION of Parliament. The omission of the words “and of existence” from the quote make it sound like a circumstance may arise when it is acceptable to strip Parliament of its power, ie prorogue it. But in fact this section relates to when it is acceptable to dissolve Parliament, and return to the nation for a general election.

When people are deliberately misquoting books to support their point, you know that they know they’re in the wrong!

No, none of the List of Lies is laid down in the Lisbon Treaty

There’s a new and fun cut-and-paste list going round! This one recites some fundamental untruths about how the EU works, and if I were being kind I would say perhaps it stems from misunderstanding. However since the list veers so completely into ranting fantasy towards the end (number 18 is my personal favourite), it’s clear that the whole thing is a List of Lies designed to scare people into voting Leave again, should there be a second referendum.

By the way, putting “as laid down in the Lisbon Treaty” in a sentence doesn’t make it true. It does make the lie more obvious though. Continue reading No, none of the List of Lies is laid down in the Lisbon Treaty

No, the EU does not fund companies to move jobs out of the UK

UPDATE 16 December 2018
I never expected this post to be so popular, but clearly there is a need to continually refute cut-and-paste lists of nonsense. I’ve recently discovered that the list in question has made a reappearance, and I’m going to update this post if necessary. If you have some information that I could add to the list, or something nice to say, please put in the comments. However I will not approve any other comments, this is not a discussion forum.

A handy refutation to that cut-and-paste list that is doing the rounds. I’ve given sources where I can, but for some of these it’s just such a blatant lie that there’s no source possible. If you can provide any more information than I have here, please comment!

Cadbury moved factory to Poland 2011 with EU grant.

Cadbury was bought by Kraft, which is American. Kraft shafted Cadbury. The EU had nothing to do with it.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/cadbury-closes-british-factory-to-move-101746
Continue reading No, the EU does not fund companies to move jobs out of the UK